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to convey the meaning that marks duly registered in either country, and in use in China, should, although not registered in the country of the other, be afforded as full protection as if they had been registered in both countries. The non-protection of British marks registered in England and in use in China, but not registered or in use in Japan, will give Japanese the opportunity of appropriating these marks and registering them in Japan as Japanese marks (which has already been done), and when the Chinese Trade-marks Regulations come into force there will be nothing to prevent the Japanese holders of these counterfeit marks from claiming their re-registration as Japanese marks in China against the original British proprietors of the marks who did not register their marks in Japan, possibly because they were in use in China only. Or if, again, it is decided by the Chinese Regulations that all marks in use in China prior to a certain date shall be placed in a special list, as has been proposed, the Japanese holder equally with the British owner will demand that his mark be placed in that list, and if the counterfeit is unassailable, according to Japanese law, it will be exceedingly difficult, if not impossible, to secure justice. This is one of the many difficulties likely to ensue, unless a Convention fully safeguarding all British trade-marks in use in China can be successfully concluded.

The necessity for such a comprehensive Convention as will embrace British marks, unregistered as well as registered, in Japan may be gathered from the following illustration. The proprietor of a British trade-mark uses it on goods in China, but not in Japan, and does not therefore register it in Japan. When the Chinese Trade-marks Regulations come into force he registers that mark for his exclusive use in China. A Japanese subject may, however, counterfeit, imitate, or colourably imitate that mark and even register it in Japan, thus making it, according to Japanese law, unassailable (cf. "Crocodile" mark). He can introduce goods bearing that counterfeit mark into China, and, as registration in China will be optional, there need be no dispute at the Chinese registration office as to the bona fide ownership of the mark. In such a case the British proprietor would have no redress, whether in Chinese or Japanese Courts, in China.

Japanese law recognizes priority of registration, not priority of use. Had a Trade-marks Law existed in China there can be no doubt that the old British marks now in use in this country would have been duly registered under that law. That, however, was impossible, and when the Chinese Trade-marks Regulations again come up for discussion care must be taken that priority of use shall receive due consideration, that ample time shall be given for the filing of marks, and that, to permit of objections being raised, a sufficient interval shall elapse after publication of the marks for which application for registration is made before registration or re-registration is granted.

(Signed) ALEX. HOSIE,

Peking, August 15, 1908.

Acting Commercial Attaché.

0

Office or Individual.”

Foreign

1908

14 Oct

Last previous Paper.

HONG KONG

STRAITS

No. 37615

(Subject.)

China Trade

DOMESTIC.

37615

15.30. 08

further confl.corre ap

(Minutes.)

4. Stuble

Dr Antrobus Jongres

The Amenian Govt suggest that it's representatives should be given Plews potentiang.

deprecated

Aug 31

This at the Brand puim conference

The Action of Sin E. Grey suggestion.

with 35408

Aug 28

Ministers has

Seft 21

Section 1

Section 1

Couls sent t Str but hey bury H.I mae

25000---17-7. 100005--W. & S. Ltd.-20902- 250I-W. MA. Ltd.—23140–— 2500-11-07.

Next subsequent Paper.

Hofe has better still be held back for 58H 16/10

We can't send out the Conference frother, got (see a 2383)

The rest fort matter.

Rht. Oct. 24 at puce.

Gr. 16

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20 4+ to convey the meaning that marks duly registered in either country, and in use in China, should, although not registered in the country of the other, be afforded as full protection as if they had been registered in both countries. The non-protection of British marks registered in England and in use in China, but not registered or in use in Japan, will give Japanese the opportunity of appropriating these marks and registering them in Japan as Japanese marks (which has already been done), and when the Chinese Trade-marks Regulations come into force there will be nothing to prevent the Japanese holders of these counterfeit marks from claiming their re-registration as Japanese marks in China against the original British proprietors of the marks who did not register their marks in Japan, possibly because they were in use in China only. Or if, again, it is decided by the Chinese Regulations that all marks in use in China prior to a certain date shall be placed in a special list, as has been proposed, the Japanese holder equally with the British owner will demand that his mark be placed in that list, and if the counterfeit is unassailable, according to Japanese law, it will be exceedingly difficult, if not impossible, to secure justice. This is one of the many difficulties likely to ensue, unless a Convention fully safeguarding all British trade-marks in use in China can be successfully concluded. The necessity for such a comprehensive Convention as will embrace British marks, unregistered as well as registered, in Japan may be gathered from the following illustration. The proprietor of a British trade-mark uses it on goods in China, but not in Japan, and does not therefore register it in Japan. When the Chinese Trade-marks Regulations come into force he registers that mark for his exclusive use in China. A Japanese subject may, however, counterfeit, imitate, or colourably imitate that mark and even register it in Japan, thus making it, according to Japanese law, unassailable (cf. "Crocodile" mark). He can introduce goods bearing that counterfeit mark into China, and, as registration in China will be optional, there need be no dispute at the Chinese registration office as to the bona fide ownership of the mark. In such a case the British proprietor would have no redress, whether in Chinese or Japanese Courts, in China. Japanese law recognizes priority of registration, not priority of use. Had a Trade-marks Law existed in China there can be no doubt that the old British marks now in use in this country would have been duly registered under that law. That, however, was impossible, and when the Chinese Trade-marks Regulations again come up for discussion care must be taken that priority of use shall receive due consideration, that ample time shall be given for the filing of marks, and that, to permit of objections being raised, a sufficient interval shall elapse after publication of the marks for which application for registration is made before registration or re-registration is granted. (Signed) ALEX. HOSIE, Peking, August 15, 1908. Acting Commercial Attaché. 0 Office or Individual.” Foreign 1908 14 Oct Last previous Paper. HONG KONG STRAITS No. 37615 (Subject.) China Trade DOMESTIC. 37615 15.30. 08 further confl.corre ap (Minutes.) 4. Stuble Dr Antrobus Jongres The Amenian Govt suggest that it's representatives should be given Plews potentiang. deprecated Aug 31 This at the Brand puim conference The Action of Sin E. Grey suggestion. with 35408 Aug 28 Ministers has Seft 21 Section 1 Section 1 Couls sent t Str but hey bury H.I mae 25000---17-7. 100005--W. & S. Ltd.-20902- 250I-W. MA. Ltd.—23140–— 2500-11-07. Next subsequent Paper. Hofe has better still be held back for 58H 16/10 We can't send out the Conference frother, got (see a 2383) The rest fort matter. Rht. Oct. 24 at puce. Gr. 16
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20 4+ to convey the meaning that marks duly registered in either country, and in use in China, should, although not registered in the country of the other, be afforded as full protection as if they had been registered in both countries. The non-protection of British marks registered in England and in use in China, but not registered or in use in Japan, will give Japanese the opportunity of appropriating these marks and registering them in Japan as Japanese marks (which has already been done), and when the Chinese Trade- marks Regulations come into force there will be nothing to prevent the Japanese holders of these counterfeit marks from claiming their re-registration as Japanese marks in China against the original British proprietors of the marks who did not register their marks in Japan, possibly because they were in use in China only. Or if, again, it is decided by the Chinese Regulations that all marks in use in China prior to a certain date shall be placed in a special list, as has been proposed, the Japanese holder equally with the British owner will demand that his mark be placed in that list, and if the counterfeit is unassailable, according to Japanese law, it will be exceedingly difficult, if not impossible, to secure justice. This is one of the many difficulties likely to ensue, unless a Convention fully safe-guarding all British trade-marks in use in China can be successfully concluded. The necessity for such a comprehensive Convention as will embrace British marks, unregistered as well as registered, in Japan may be gathered from the following illustration. The proprietor of a British trade-mark uses it on goods in China, but not in Japan, and does not therefore register it in Japan. When the Chinese Trade-marks Regulations come into force he registers that mark for his exclusive use in China. A Japanese subject may, however, counterfeit, imitate, or colourably imitate that mark and even register it in Japan, thus making it, according to Japanese law, unassailable (cf. "Crocodile" mark). He can introduce goods bearing that counterfeit mark into China, and, as registration in China will be optional, there need be no dispute at the Chinese registration office as to the bond fide ownership of the mark. In such a case the British proprietor would have no redress, whether in Chinese or Japanese Courts, in China. Japanese law recognizes priority of registration, not priority of use. Had a Trade. marks Law existed in China there can be no doubt that the old British marks now in use in this country would have been duly registered under that law. That, however, was impossible, and when the Chinese Trade-marks Regulations again come up for discussion care must be taken that priority of use shall receive due consideration, that ample time shall be given for the filing of marks, and that, to permit of objections being raised, a sufficient interval shall clapse after publication of the marks for which application for registration is made before registration or re-registration is granted. (Signed) ALEX. HOSIE, Peking, August 15, 1908. 0 Acting Commercial Attaché. Office or Individual.” Foreign 1908 14 Oct Last previous Paper. уз жа Hongkong Cat Printils Huangling" Tout they 28 seet, & up a secti Straits! B3 Na 7.0. Sendo HONG KONG STRAITS No. 37615 (Subject.) China Trade Opuian prints of further C O DOMESTIC. 37615 15.30. 08 further confl.corre ap (Minutes.) 4. Stuble Dr Antrobus Jongres The Amenian Govt suggest hat it's representatives should be given Plews potentiang. deprecated Aug 31 This at the Brand puim conference The Action of Sin E. Grey suggestion. with 35408 Aug 28 Ministers has Seft 21 Sectio. I. Section 1 Section 1 Couls ве sent t Str but hey bury H.I mae 25000---17-7. 100005--W. & S. Ltd.-20902- 250I-W. MA. Ltd.—23140–— 2500-11-07. Next subsequent Paper. Hofe has better still be held back for 58H 16/10 We can't send out the Conference frother, got (see a 2383) The rest fort matter. Rht. Oct. 24 at puce. Gr. 16
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to convey the meaning that marks duly registered in either country, and in use in China, should, although not registered in the country of the other, be afforded as full protection as if they had been registered in both countries. The non-protection of British marks registered in England and in use in China, but not registered or in use in Japan, will give Japanese the opportunity of appropriating these marks and registering them in Japan as Japanese marks (which has already been done), and when the Chinese Trade- marks Regulations come into force there will be nothing to prevent the Japanese holders of these counterfeit marks from claiming their re-registration as Japanese marks in China against the original British proprietors of the marks who did not register their marks in Japan, possibly because they were in use in China only. Or if, again, it is decided by the Chinese Regulations that all marks in use in China prior to a certain date shall be placed in a special list, as has been proposed, the Japanese holder equally with the British owner will demand that his mark be placed in that list, and if the counterfeit is unassailable, according to Japanese law, it will be exceedingly difficult, if not impossible, to secure justice. This is one of the many difficulties likely to ensue, unless a Convention fully safe-guarding all British trade-marks in use in China can be successfully concluded.

The necessity for such a comprehensive Convention as will embrace British marks, unregistered as well as registered, in Japan may be gathered from the following illustration. The proprietor of a British trade-mark uses it on goods in China, but not in Japan, and does not therefore register it in Japan. When the Chinese Trade-marks Regulations come into force he registers that mark for his exclusive use in China. A Japanese subject may, however, counterfeit, imitate, or colourably imitate that mark and even register it in Japan, thus making it, according to Japanese law, unassailable (cf. "Crocodile" mark). He can introduce goods bearing that counterfeit mark into China, and, as registration in China will be optional, there need be no dispute at the Chinese registration office as to the bond fide ownership of the mark. In such a case the British proprietor would have no redress, whether in Chinese or Japanese Courts, in China.

Japanese law recognizes priority of registration, not priority of use. Had a Trade. marks Law existed in China there can be no doubt that the old British marks now in use in this country would have been duly registered under that law. That, however, was impossible, and when the Chinese Trade-marks Regulations again come up for discussion care must be taken that priority of use shall receive due consideration, that ample time shall be given for the filing of marks, and that, to permit of objections being raised, a sufficient interval shall clapse after publication of the marks for which application for registration is made before registration or re-registration is granted.

(Signed) ALEX. HOSIE,

Peking, August 15, 1908.

0

Acting Commercial Attaché.

Office or Individual.”

Foreign

1908

14 Oct

Last previous Paper.

уз жа

Hongkong Cat Printils Huangling"

Tout they 28 seet, & up a secti

Straits!

B3 Na 7.0.

Sendo

HONG KONG

STRAITS

No. 37615

(Subject.)

China Trade

Opuian

prints of further

C O

DOMESTIC.

37615

15.30. 08

further confl.corre ap

(Minutes.)

4. Stuble

Dr Antrobus Jongres

The Amenian Govt suggest hat it's

representatives

should be given

Plews potentiang.

deprecated

Aug 31

This

at the

Brand puim conference

The Action of

Sin E. Grey

suggestion.

with 35408

Aug 28

Ministers

has

Seft 21

Sectio. I.

Section 1

Section 1

Couls

ве

sent t

Str

but hey

bury

H.I

mae

25000---17-7.

100005--W. & S. Ltd.-20902-

250I-W. MA. Ltd.—23140–— 2500-11-07.

Next subsequent Paper.

Hofe

has better still be held back for

58H 16/10

We can't send out the Conference frother, got (see a 2383)

The rest fort matter.

Rht. Oct. 24

at

puce.

Gr. 16

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